Interview with Roy Wilhelm, December 24, 1992

'''Roy''': When the Wilhelms got here, why they settled in Concho and then the old man was a rustlin' around, he'd driven quite a lot of cattle with him, he took part of his stuff in cash and part of it in cattle and drove the cattle alongside.  So they was pretty well fixed when they come . . . and he was knocking around and discovered the wonderful grazing up on the mountains, just right for cattle so he took Goodman  . . . Goodman's old millstead now  . . .  

'''Roy''':  Yeah, course he pulled the deal with old what's his name.  Him and Flake bought the land, it was squatters right all around Concho.  The Mexicans had no idea those guys could make a go of it.  They just couldn't envision that they was going to move a lot of people in there and make a town, see.  They was just goin' to get what they could off of 'em and never see 'em again.  They didn't believe they could do anything.  So Grandpa was in on that.  Grandpa had used his homestead right up in Utah but he discovered this little cove up there, oh whats his name you been there  . . . and it appealed to 'em and they wanted it, so Grandma.  I'm adding a lot here, details to make it clear.  I don't have any Wilhelm stuff to back that up, I do have a letter from two of the Apostles when the trouble come along, the polygamy.  Wrote (the Apostles) to Grandpa and both of 'em signed it and  advised him to take the younger woman and go down on the border and get away from here so they couldn't pin polygamy on him.  And let Lydia stay there and prove up on her homestead and that's where I get this, otherwise he would, made himself a homestead, well he  . . .